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Section size for Crossrail (37 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	4,898	4,898
History	2,001	11,863
Early proposals	2,473	2,473
Later proposals	5,766	5,766
Approval	1,623	1,623
Construction	244	40,809
Chronology	20,507	20,507
Tunnel boring machines	4,486	4,486
Health, safety, and industrial relations	2,623	6,417
Blacklisting	3,794	3,794
Archaeology	4,297	4,297
Operational testing	1,142	1,142
Expected completion	3,716	3,716
Route	2,989	8,589
Western end	5,055	5,055
Eastern end	545	545
Design and infrastructure	190	13,002
Name and identity	2,628	2,628
Tunnels	2,691	2,691
Stations	4,956	4,956
Electrification and signalling	1,564	1,564
Depots	973	973
Further proposals	22	17,183
Additional stations	181	5,907
Silvertown (London City Airport)	3,733	3,733
Old Oak Common	1,993	1,993
Extensions	202	11,254
To Ebbsfleet and Gravesend	6,049	6,049
To the West Coast Main Line	2,975	2,975
To Staines	636	636
To Southend Airport	1,392	1,392
Management and franchise	5,093	5,093
See also	313	313
References	17	2,251
Citations	31	31
General and cited sources	2,203	2,203
External links	983	983
Total	104,984	104,984

Merger of "History of the Crossrail line" into this article

On 8 May, Zsteve21 merged History of the Crossrail line into this article. I disagree with this change, as I think there is more than enough content to have a separate History article to keep this page more readable. Does anyone else agree/disagree? Bellowhead678 (talk) 14:11, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Such a major change should have been proposed for consensus first. Revert per WP:BRD. I would do it but not practical on mobile. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 15:07, 15 May 2022 (UTC) revised --15:10, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Can I suggest just waiting a few days? Given that the railway line and service operating on it, i.e. Elizabeth line, is going to become (almost) fully operational on 24 May, quite a bit of information from both here and TfL Rail is going to go over to that Elizabeth line article. At that point this article will be all about the project to build the line - a key part of which is its history. I'm suggesting wait-see because I think at the point the article (including the merged in history and moved-out operational stuff) will likely be of an acceptable size. 10mmsocket (talk) 15:22, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've reverted it back to how it was before, so that a clear consensus can be reached before we decide anything. Personally I think it should remain a separate article, with the Crossrail article's History section being a summary of the History article, with a "Main" link. Mattdaviesfsic (talk) 16:16, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And I have reverted the history section back to where it was before the content was moved across from the other article. Obviously there's work to be done on both to reduce overlap and make the summary here more succinct / focused. --10mmsocket (talk) 16:33, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies and delays

Hi, i got to know that Crossrail was bogged down by numerous delays and other controversies between 2015 and 2019. But there is no mention of these issues in the article. Shouldnt we have a separate section dedicated these issues? Learninglawry (talk) 10:28, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

a project

Crossrail is a completed railway project ...

And the Great Pyramid is a completed funerary project? It's an odd description. Is the name Crossrail not used for the result of the project? —Tamfang (talk) 17:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The railway service called the Elizabeth line. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 17:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sources also back up the "Crossrail Project" moniker. e.g. Crossrail project Turini2 (talk) 18:37, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]