Talk:Sallust

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Who on earth is the random in that photo? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.42.82 (talk) 09:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Potential Plagerism

http://encyclopedia.jrank.org/SAC_SAR/SALLUST_Gams_SALLUSTIUS_CRlspus.html 129.67.43.240 23:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, they're using the same public domain content as Wikipedia. They can't claim copyright over it anymore than we can. (By the way, it's spelled plagiarism.) Quartier Latin1968

19:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation strategy?

Sallust and Sallustius are just variant spellings, but currently Sallust is for the historian and Sallustius for the praetorian prefect/philosopher.

One idea: Sallust and Sallustius both redirect to a disambiguation page. Sallustius should move to Sallustius the Philosopher or Sallustius (prefect), and Sallust should move to somewhere else (Sallust (historian)?).

Alternatively, Sallust and Sallustius could both direct to the historian, from whom there could be an {{otheruses}} link to Sallustius (disambiguation), which in turn would link to Sallustius the Philosopher (and the host of other people with the same name!). Any thoughts? Quartier Latin1968 19:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Contorniate of Sallust"

The image at right is traditionally assumed to refer to Sallust the historian. That identification is not strong. It may refer instead to another SALVSTIVS, the author of a fourth-century philosophical treatise.^[1] It is also clearly a fictitious portrait, regardless of who was the person intended to be depicted. I reverted (or will shortly revert) its addition. Ifly6 (talk) 22:24, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that the portrait is imaginary, but isn’t it a precedent to use such portraits if there is no accurate one? For example, the infobox images of people like Horace, Suetonius, and Apuleius are all fictional portraits done centuries after their deaths. I am new to Wikipedia editing, so am I missing something? Thanks. Dantus21 (talk) 02:52, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I think it shouldn't be there is because it's misattributed, not merely because it's a fictitious portrait. Ifly6 (talk) 19:30, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry about my misunderstanding. In that case, I will upload the image below.

I understand that it is almost certainly an imagined portrait. However, as it precedent to provide one rather than none (as I have mentioned before), and the subject is Sallust the historian (his full name is written, and at the bottom right it states “Conjuratio Catilina” on the scroll, referencing his work), I will upload this one. Dantus21 (talk) 22:43, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I still think an ancient representation is better for the infobox than an 18th century engraving. Perhaps "Bronze medallion with an effigy sometimes identified as Sallust, AD 360–450" would be a better caption and address concerns about misattribution. 𝕱𝖎𝖈𝖆𝖎𝖆 (talk) 02:29, 9 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Hartswick, Kim J (2004). The gardens of Sallust: a changing landscape. University of Texas Press. p. 8. ISBN 978-0-292-70547-0.

[1] Hartswick, Kim J (2004). The gardens of Sallust: a changing landscape. University of Texas Press. p. 8. ISBN 978-0-292-70547-0.

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