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CVT

That is a beautiful electoral poster. There is no other Romanian politician whom has attached similar poster. --Vasile 04:13, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC) I think a simple image will be better. --Vasile 15:25, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Re: January 15 Seattle meetup

I'm sorry, but I have no independent method of travel available. Denelson83 06:58, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sorry again, but I have no wish of crossing the border into the states. I might be interested in attending a meet-up in Vancouver or Victoria. However, even though I am 21, I still live with my parents, and I do not believe they would appreciate me being with strangers for an extended period. And besides, I have college to attend where I live (Courtenay). Denelson83 07:06, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi Jmabel!

I'm unsure about my schedule for the 15th, but may be able to attend depending on circumstance. I'd like to be kept aware of PNW meet-ups though; I'm currently in Vancouver (boat is in Point Roberts). - Amgine 17:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Right-wing

I've added my 2 cents to that discussion, for what it's worth. Lucidish 00:35, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Neil Young

OK, thanks for the polite approach; I will check my understanding of the embedded links policy. I still don't think the mention of a review of an unrelated artists' disc decades later belongs in the article, though. Jgm 15:57, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Blocking Goplat

I believe if you check carefully you will find that User:Goplat was in fact correcting the creation of irrelevant redirects by User:Christmas Willy on Wheels rather than himself creating them. - Nunh-huh 01:28, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC) SORRY!!!! -- Jmabel | Talk 01:35, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)

I'm trying to unblock him now, but if you already know how, you might be faster... You also might want to leave a "sorry" on his talk page? - Nunh-huh 01:38, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I actually tested this. I created User:Aranel/test1, moved it to User:Aranel/test2, and then moved it back. The move back shows up as "(New) User:Aranel/test2 (User:Aranel/test2 moved to User:Aranel/test1)" even though that was not the edit that created it. I unblocked Goplat (hey, now that's two of us) and I'm working on the auto-blocked IPs. --Aranel ("Sarah") 01:40, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I think he's unblocked now. Special:List of blocked IP addresses and usernames takes forever to load! - Nunh-huh 01:41, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)

More about translation of Francisco Hernández de Córdoba

Sorry for the delay: I have answered to your questions in Talk:Francisco Hernández de Córdoba (discoverer of Yucatán). I'll try to help in the future (from the Spanish side of the problem, of course) with other translations of the week. Happy new year Vivero 00:01, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Chinatown

I've noticed that you've done a few edits recently on the Chinatown article, and I would like your comments, suggestions, etc. I stumbled upon the whole range of Chinatown articles, including Chinatowns in North America, because I have been doing some editing of some of the Los Angeles area communities, including the ethnic communities of Chinatown, Los Angeles, California and Little Tokyo, Los Angeles, California. I then went up the hierarchy of articles to see how the ethnic communities were being done in other large cities. When I've looked at the various Chinatown articles, they have driven me crazy because they are filled with spelling and grammar errors, they are poorly organized and have information that is repeated both within and between articles, there is some heavy POV throughout the articles, etc. It's such a big mess that I haven't even tried to do anything other than simple spell-checking.

What is really needed in my opinion is probably a Chinatown Wikiproject to get all the contributors to start working together. The top level Chinatown article, for a start, needs to be severely edited to slash out all the detail that should be in the lower level articles, and then rebuilt so that it provides a much better overview. Even the next level articles such as "Chinatown in North America" article deserves some heavy pruning, again moving the details down to the community articles, along with the creation of a bunch of new Chinatown community articles such as Chinatown, Monterey Park, California. gK ¿? 01:20, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Links

Neither have I ever seen or heard of this nor do I agree. Leaving parts of single words unlinked not only looks unprofessional, but I cannot see how maintenance is an issue. If you talking about direct quotes only, that's one thing. Otherwise, however, I can't agree to linking that way. Wally 23:32, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Input needed

Hi Jmabel: Please see Lost Ten Tribes Talk:Lost Ten Tribes as to how this article should be presented. This is how I recently found it: [1]. I then edited it to this: [2]. Another user then changed it to this: [3]. Finally, I edited it to this: [4] which is where it essentially stands, awaiting more input. Your suggestions would help, the topic is important. Thank you. IZAK 07:06, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Anti-vandalism

Er, never mind. I've been unblocked! ^_^; ‣ᓛᖁᑐ 20:53, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Seattle featured article

Hi, in response to your question on my talk page:

Re Wikipedia_talk:Featured_article_candidates#How_does_this_resolve.3F: does Raul correctly understand that you do not support Seattle as a featured article? And, if he is correct, what do you think needs to happen to get it there? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:04, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

No, Raul's wrong. I was agreeing with you that making the article longer probably wasn't going to be a good idea. I admit to not specifically saying support but that was an oversight. I think I thought there would be a longer comment period. I do support Seattle as a featured article and when it's nominated again I intend to explicitly support it so there's no confusion. --Lukobe 23:26, Dec 28, 2004 (UTC)

you're right, I meant probative

I'm still not sure why it is relevant to mention the Jewish background of certain neocons, you argue that you recognize their intellectual style, although I'm not sure what that is, flawed reasoning, emphasis on some values over others? If their jewish background is being emphasized in public discourse, perhaps it has to be discussed. I'm sure in some quarters it enhances neocon as a perjorative, although perhaps it is offerred innocently as a likely contributer to their Israel opinions.--Silverback 08:40, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Question: Lost Ten Tribes

Please take a look at the Talk page for Lost Ten Tribes, I have posted a question for you. MPLX/MH 20:14, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I was somewhat taken aback by your last remark on the other Talk page which is why I wanted to know what prompted it? I have done my best to be very careful (if you read my earlier comments) to be neutral in tone and very low key in language because the topic could become inflammatory which I want to avoid. If you notice I answered each of your points but the fact that I disagreed with you does not warrant a blanket personal remark in response. I would like for us to continue to communicate in a good spirit on this or any other matter. Thanks. MPLX/MH 16:27, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Birthe Neumann

I've translated the rest of the titles, I had to look up some of them at the Royal Danish Theatre's webpage since they have invented new names for some titles such as "to kvinder" (two women) which is actually the one called "A Breath of Life" in English, but I think they should be correct now. Fuelbottle | Talk 21:15, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Vendee

Hey, Jmabel.

i understand that my small edit to the page "revolt in the vendee" can be easily mistaken as a POV, and in reading it, i did in some regards fall into that trap.

the point I was trying to make it that the carnage of the Vendee Genocide is a major contributing factor to the demise of Robespierre and the Jacobite cause. This is not a POV statement, it was blatantly a major reason, especially when you consider the close proximity of the White Terror with the end of the Vendee Revolt.

Thanks, for seeing my error, and I hope to make more lasting and realistic edits and additions to this site in the time i spend here. As a student of History, and (hopefully) a History Major in the next few years at College, its very useful to have Wikipedia as both a sorce of knowlege and a place to apply knowlege.

thanks B. Warzybok

Nancy Pearl and anon

That's a primary source you have there :-) it's an Australian librarian that I had help me with a Strathfield article. Just shhhh... she doesn't need to know you know! - Ta bu shi da yu 10:39, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Systemic bias

Great re-write! However, as a researcher, your example of the thermometer is not actually accurate. Systemic bias is exclusive to cognitive situations. The thermometer suffers from calibration error, while bias is a random error based on personal history/experience/loyalty whatever. For example, USA thermometers which always read five degrees colder in Canada, because they expect Canada to be colder, but read correctly in Texas (and at least one degree cooler in New Mexico, 'cuz Texas is hotter than New Mexico right?)

Anyway, I think the article is improved over the substub it was. - Amgine 20:29, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Ted Kennedy

I approve of your cleaning up of my edit on Kennedy’s view on abortion, nice work. Forgive me if my original edit seemed a bit like a cheap shot to Kennedy instead of stating facts, but I guess I have a hard time believing that someone would switch so drastically on views with something like abortion, for anything other than a political gain. I guess what I mean to say is that he did'nt change for anything other than trying to get votes, but was stated poorly by me, thanks.

Joe, (is it joe? I'm inferring...), you're welcome. Chappaquiddick ignorance is one of my pet peeves, and there are no books written by pro-Ted crackpots, so the ignorance is all negative info. I have yet to see anyone assail Ted on Chappaquiddick who even knows he nearly drowned trying to get Mary Jo out. Their attitude hasn't seemed to change since the first presumptive rumors in 1969 (the one thing we learn from the Time articles is that there's nothing new in the technology of TK-bashing since then). As for Lokifer, I think he's not all that bad; at least he's doing due diligence; but he's not really understanding everything he's reading. If it was unambiguously 6 feet, I'd be the first one to include it; but it's unambiguously not 6 feet now, so no way will I let it stand. I really am seriously considering pushing the whole thing to a standalone page and cleaning up everywhere Ted and Mary Jo are mentioned, because neither of them deserves full-frontal crackpottery and it's clear the trolls need a place to vent, so we might as well label it that. Blair P. Houghton 21:37, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Aztec

Hola, ya estoy de vuelta, primero gracias por tener paciencia para ayudarme a darle forma al articulo de aztecas. Estoy añadiendo algunos detalles mas, pero espero comenzar pronto a poner algo sobre religion. Es un tema dificil que probablemente este mas alla de mi ingles, asi que te molestare pidiendo ayuda cuando comienze. Acabo de añadir algo mas sobre el tema de sacrificios, pero quisiera tu opinion, quiero ver si la infomracion que coloco esta suficientemente respaldada, pues es un tema delicado donde a todos nos resulta dificil ser objetivos.

finalmente te deseo un feliz año nuevo Nanahuatzin 11:08, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Vote on new template

I have now posted a vote (Template_talk:Jew#Vote_on_new_template) for whether or not people will accept the new template. Please put yourself where you feel comfortable. Alkivar 19:19, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Stubs

I'm sorry if I was hasty with Abraham, but I was going through the people stubs trying to get rid of those that had obviously been expanded without the notice being removed. The definition of a stub is fairly clear, and I only removed the notices from the ones that I thought really didn't comply. Lots of the articles marked as stubs can still be expanded on, but that doesn't in itself make them stubs. My main aim was to thin out the list a bit, so that people didn't waste time on articles that were already good, rather than fleshing out the one-liners. Sorry again. Deb 18:26, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Accusation

Hey Joe, what's up. I was wondering if you could help me search the older history of the Thracian language page (see the Talk page for the paragraph in question), so I can find out who wrote a certain paragraph. I didn't write it at all, but Bogdan assumed that I did, then wrote a comment accusing me. I can't seem to access the older history. Anyway, Bogdan has shown himself to be full of animosity (I don't know why), and the funny thing is there is no reason for the animosity. Decius 03:45, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for taking some time and helping me out. I tried to check the older history files, but I couldn't get further than the first edit before my first edit. I got your back if you ever need help. Decius 06:11, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

He did name me, in big letters. He titled his comment "Stuff added by Decius", then wrote his comments underneath. The original title of his comment is shown in the history of the discussion page. I changed that title to "Latin paragraph" myself. So, there is the accusation there in plain letters. Decius 06:51, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Anyway, it's alright, I just wanted to identify the actual user who added that paragraph, but I couldn't access that myself. When I say 'alright', I mean I'm not pressing the issue: it doesn't mean the situation is "alright". I opened up the Thracian language discussion page, and what did I see? A false accusation made in big letters by someone who should have thought to check the history. Decius 06:59, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Detailed Chronology and Brunete

I have permission from www.lacucaracha.info.com

Detailed Chronology and Brunete

This is copy of e-mail from www.lacucaracha.info: Hello,

On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:57:18PM +0100, lukjacov@globalnet.hr wrote: > Can I copy-paste your articles to wikipedia?

if you find them worthy and not too full of spelling mistakes :-)

I just don't get to it, but I want to put a copyleft notice on the web site, that means that everybody can use the text from the site as he wishes, without referring to the source if needed/wanted and do whatever he pleases with it. Free as in totally free :-)

Salud, and all the best,

Tomas Capdevila webmaster@lacucaracha.info

thanks

Thanks for your contributions on the systemic bias article. ~leif ☺ _HELO 21:52, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

Copyright

What I dont undestand about the articles from Spartacus and Legion Irlandaise or any other fee-view page is if it is free-view I dont c y it can be viewed from Wikipedia or any other non-profit page? (unsigned remark by Jugoslaven)

Being allowed to view a page for free is not the same as being allowed to copy it and post it on another server. I'll try to explain to Jugoslaven on his talk page. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:46, Jan 4, 2005 (UTC)

Have u contacted Cucaracha? What about Spartcus and Legion Irlandaise? What administator wanted to expell me from wikipedia? (User:Jugoslaven again, unsigned again) I have contacted Cucaracha webmaster.This copy of his respond:Hello,

> My wikipedia administrator had tried to contact u but u didnt anwser.

sorry, I did not receive his mail. Maybe it got stuck somewhere, the spam filter system of my mail provider does mean it too good sometimes.

If he could please try to contact me again under <webmaster@lacucaracha.info>. If you pass me his mail address I will contact him also immediately.

Salud, and all the best,

Tomas Capdevila webmaster@lacucaracha.info

Archiving WP:AN

Sorry, I'd been requested (see WT:AN#Archiving guidelines) to be aggressive in archiving Incident stuff, and that one had last been touched almost 48 hours ago, so I moved it out (just before you went to add to it, alas). Sigh, you can't win! Noel (talk) 05:25, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Bringing the old text back (for context) was definitely the right call. Noel (talk) 05:38, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Copyright

Sorry, but I did that before I read your message. I thought if I get permission it is enough.I am reallly sorry. U didnt tell me, have u contacted page about Legion Irlandaise?

Re: History of Chile

I added the link solely as a reference, so users know that it's not just made up, which is a lot of people's problems with wikis. I know for certain that references are considered quite valuable in an article: FACs are often turned down due to lack of references. I adding it there because an anonymous user changed a few of the dates on that page, and it looked like it was false information. I did a web search for both dates, and to be honest, I just picked out the first one I saw, so if you have a better reference, please feel free to replace mine with that one! That site doesn't look like the most authoritative, so I'm sure there's some way better ones. Please note that I'm not trying to direct users to that page, but if they want to double-check what Wikipedia's saying, they don't have to do too much dirty work. It also gives Wikipedia more validity if it's referenced.

If you've read and understood my point, and you still think it should be removed, it's your call, seeing as this is a wiki. That being said, I really appreciate that you were reluctant to remove it against my will :)

Thank you for your message. -Frazzydee|✍ 22:45, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)

A "more accurate" description of Strauss

I'm not sure accuracy about facts is the goal of that paragraph, which is about how MacDonald "describes" Strauss and the movement. Your phrase is probably a more accurate depiction of the facts being imbued with so much meaning by MacDonald, but they are a response to MacDonald's description. When reporting a published POV such a MacDonald's, how he describes it should be retained and perhaps the actual facts which have alternative coincidental meanings reported separately. Perhaps there is language to accomplish this with separate sentences or dependent clauses in the same paragraph.--Silverback 00:54, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reavoitoare

'Reavoitoare' is from 'rauvoitor', which means "someone who wishes ill" or "someone with ill intentions". 'Rau' meaning 'bad', while 'voitor' is from 'voie', 'will'. 'Cu tendinţa reavoitoare' basically means 'with a tendency towards ill-will'. The words look almost unrecognizable in the compound 'reavoitoare', so no wonder you didn't recognize them. Decius 07:33, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)

My proposal on meta

Hello, thanks for your feedback on http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Edit_rules . I have changed some parts of my proposal and clarified others because of your (and others) critics. I hope that you can be with it more comfortable now. I have also answered to your concerns on the talk page and am interested what you now think about it. -- Arnomane 13:54, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Nix Latin!

I'm glad you agree with me about getting rid of ridiculous, needless Latin expressions, but I can't help thinking that "as such" and "in itself" mean exactly the same thing.

I'm sure this anonymous remark refers to one of my last hundred or so edits, but I have no idea which. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:53, Jan 10, 2005 (UTC)

Back!

Hi Joe!

A month and a half went by, a new year arrived, and all these people saying nice things undermined my resolve to stay away. I hereby welcome myself back (slightly reinvented). Chamaeleon 22:59, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)

British Library, Add. MS 5111. 7th century Gospel Book fragment

Hi, you recently commented on the VfD for British Library, Add. MS 5111. 7th century Gospel Book fragment, which, as you may recall, was listed for having an "ugly" name. That listing has prompted me to write a proposal for a naming convention for articles about manuscripts without names. The proposal can be found here. Any comments you would like to make would be appreciated. Thank you. Dsmdgold 11:05, Jan 12, 2005 (UTC)

Latin Genitives

-ium or -um, which one? is an easy mistake, the Romans not having made it convenient for the rest of us. . . . For the 3d declension the rule in theory is simple, though: if the gen. sing. has the same number of syllables as the nom. sing., the gen. plur. is in -ium; if more, in -um.

Thus: felis, felis, felium; brevis, brevis, brevium — but lex, legis, legum; mulier, mulieris, mulierum.

Princeps, principis is regular, and therefore the gen. pl. is principum. (The confusion arises with many of us — and I admit to having checked before I made the change! — because of the word principium = "beginning", a different word though.)

And then there are the exceptions. . . ! canis, canis, canum; urbs, urbis, urbium — and not a few others, including the whole family of pater, patris, patrum in which there's really a contraction, pater, pat(e)ris, pat(e)rum. Bill 15:42, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

But even with the 1st rule, you still have to deal with the masculine plurals which are almost as complicated as 3rd declension. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.91.116 (talk • contribs) 22 Jan 2006 about a year after this was archived.

an edit war on Moldova page

Hi there Jmabel, can you take a look at the Moldova article page ? there seems to be an edit war on how the Infobox about Moldova should look like. Perhaps you can find a solution, i don't know what to do to stop it Criztu 16:34, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Demographics of Seattle

well, now hopefully that demographics part about Seattle is cleared up, which took you three edits to do so, probably the least you can get out of this is a lil proof reading before submitting the changes =)

Anyways good job on actually fixing what the citations were supposed to be and correcting my mistake of combining the percentages; also i had no idea it was supposed to be left blank and wiki will number it automatically.

Cheers, LG-犬夜叉 00:52, Jan 13, 2005 (UTC)

Lacas/Locas

Lacas or Locas has more than one meaning: it basically means 'locus' (place). In religious use, it can mean 'a holy place, church, monastery, shrine'; secularly, it can be applied to about any specific place. In the sentence, you can translate it as 'a shrine of culture' or 'a mecca of culture' , 'a center of culture', or you could use another term. Decius 03:55, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Rananim

Jmabel- Thank you for the link regarding Ranamin and the troubles that he has caused on Wiki. I ran up against him in the Ohio Wesleyan article and found him totally out of touch with reality. I traced him to two Cornell University IP addresses, and two wiki-names. He demonstrated a very hard time being able to seperate what is fact from what was self promotion - all of our exchanges on are the talk pages for user:rananim and Ohio Wesleyan, you can follow the trail from there. BTW, I also think that people at OWU would like to discover who he is because they are not happy with his online behaviors and they are uncomfortable with the idea that he may remerge under another name sometime soon. [[User:Stude62|user: stude62 talk:stude62]] 01:15, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

country infoboxes

Hi, there's a new Solution E that's been proposed for the country infoboxes; I've changed my vote from the Solution D that I proposed, earlier. The new option, proposed by User:Zocky, transcludes a subpage instead of using the template mechanism for this.

See: Nepal's infobox is implemented at Nepal/infobox using Template:Infobox_Country; Tuvalu's is implemented at Tuvalu/infobox as a wiki table.

Discussion is at: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Countries

Thanks. — Davenbelle 02:11, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

Assyrimenans

Please don't feel bad about that edit getting past you -- I don't blame you. We all take turns tidying up the various articles in Wikipedia. And although I am very sympathetic to their position, the modern Assyrian people unfortunately have an advocate or two who do their cause harm by making bad edits. -- llywrch 02:15, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Alexander Jannaeus

Howdy,

I noticed the reference in the Alexander Jannaeus article says "This reference gives a death date of 78 BC, but consensus seems to be 78 BC." Based on the article text, I assume it's supposed to be "gives a death date of 78 BC, but consensus seems to be 76 BC." But it could be the other way around. Do you know what this should actually say? - RedWordSmith 04:10, Jan 14, 2005 (UTC)

Secular Jews

I noticed the article, and just didn't have the strength to get into it right now. As it stands it's entirely a POV work of original research, and I was sorely tempted just to redirect it to the Jew article. However, not wanting to bite the newcomers, I was hoping someone with more tact would take this on. ;-) Jayjg | (Talk) 19:00, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Anti war-movement

I think this would interest you. An article about the European anti-war movement which debunks its "war for oil" rethorics as fallacious and inciting. See Talk:Post-September_11_anti-war_movement#War_for_Oil and here. MathKnight 18:16, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Related to Catalunya and the Catalan world

I wrote the article about catalan band Opció k-95. I though u will be interested. Tell me what do u think. User:Jugoslaven

Regiment and the line of verse from that website

The Regiment referred to in that article is a Military regiment. Those lines of verse are basically read "In this country, country of bread, even the dogs should have bread (to eat)". Peace. Decius 06:35, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Borges and Ukbar

I see you (or someone else?) removed my researched, documented addition to the article, without a word of comment. I spent hours in the library, where I even checked some of the Arabic sources, and fixed it so it would appear with the right diacritics on the webpage. It shows that Ukbar was not simply made up by Borges out of whole cloth, as your otherwise excellent article now states again. So what is going on? Is this vandalism, or an edit war, or something? If someone else did it and you will fix it, you have my apologies. --Chris B

I hope you will look here for an answer. There is no easy place to reply to you when you edit anonymously, although if your IP is consistent you'll also see the other one I'm leaving. Please open an account, if only so that people have a way to leave you messages.

I moved your paragraph to the article's talk page at [[Talk:Tl%F6n%2C_Uqbar%2C_Orbis_Tertius#Uqbar_a_real_place.3F]]. This kind of material -- on a topic where hoaxes are common -- needs references that can be checked, and not only did you not give those: as a completely anonymous individual, you wrote, "The above information is cited from memory. It is recent memory--a few days ago--but it should be checked for precision." How can we leave your first person vague recollection in an encyclopedia article? Also, since you don't give any date for your source, it is unclear whether it is something Borges could have read, or whether it might itself be a Nihilartikel influenced by Borges. -- Jmabel | Talk 17:41, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)

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Congrats on having Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius selected as a featured article! -- Matiasp 04:55, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Ditto. I remembered its early bouts with peer review fondly when reading it again yesterday. +sj + 07:54, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Fascism

Hi, The stuff about fascism and racism wasn't posted by me. Don't even agree with it.--Cberlet 02:35, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Not to worry, I showed up just about at that time. Maybe I tweaked the formatting...I used to paste-up alternative newspapers and magazines. I'm always removing extra lines between text.  :-) --Cberlet 04:45, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Proposing Name change

Hi, I hope you can visit [| this proposal] , unlike previous issues this one requires no specility knowledge and I hope you may be willing to voice agreement with the proposed move.Daeron 12:30, 22 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Big Thank You for your input, I feel you have already greatly help.--Daeron 09:02, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

On Talk:Papua_(Indonesian_province) you wrote:

• Daeron: above John gave an indication of what combination of titles -- and breakout of articles -- he would use for this and related articles. It would be very helpful if you would do the same. -- Jmabel | Talk

I wrote that the other day further up the page; I'd tried to respond to this request:

Does anyone have other suggestions? 17:52, Jan 22, 2005 (UTC)

But I had other newer comments from John to deal with first, when I tried to add my response to the above unsigned question at approx. 17:10, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC) - John had already added new content; With the mess that the discussion page was already in I gave up for a while.

When I got back you'd asked the below:

• John, Daeron: it appears that any reasonable solution is going to involve more than one article ... group to reach a consensus. -- 21:37, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)

I made yours top priority & ignored the other new comments until after answering your question: search for my time date: 06:24, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC).

P.S. This has taken the best part of an hour to work out. That's why I had inserted the voting area the other day; see Propose returning name to West Papua --Daeron 01:42, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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John Kenney

Correct me if I'm wrong; but this is the same gentleman who ten months ago would not stop his edit wars against Tannin and myself; the same person who would re-name articles to ridiculous titles nobody on the planet would expect to find the subject listed under; the same person who kept claiming I was saying things that I'd never said.

The same gentleman whose actions required both Tannin & myself to have to avoid Wikipedia for months to get the bad taste out of our mouths. And no sooner, than I ask for concensus on a discussion page; than this person returns not to discuss, but insult and resume his use of SysOp reverting of anything I've edited.

After all this time.. is there no assistance which the Wikimedia community can offer?

It is not as if anyone needs special knowledge, I have included plenty of supporting documents for any facts which anyone may want to question or dispute; not that he ever disputes anything; he just deletes it, without care or reading it he in seconds reverts over what other people spent hours researching and phasing. Yes I've liked adding new articles since 2001, but no I do not want to play his silly games.--Daeron 13:18, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sorry; this was in relation to the West Papua article which got Wik & Johns attention last Apr/May. One of the things they did was move the article from its english title West Papua through a series of titles untill they got to Papua (Indonesian province) (which now has 9 re-directs to it). Well just so long as the original title West Papua still got people to the article I let them have their way with re-naming it.

But the article now says that the current title is incorrect as "Papua (Indonesian province)" only referes to part of the territory in the article. So now there no choice, it has to be returned to something that means "Western Papua".--Daeron 20:57, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Cross fingers, hopefully I'm just panicing; my stomach was turning with the thought of re-living days & weeks of his instant reverts while having to read through his comments where he seems to ignore what's been written and what the subject matter of the article is.- Cross fingers he doesn't keep doing that to people these days.:) --Daeron 21:18, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Cofradia

When a colloqualism from another language is so obscure that no reasonable definition for it can be found, it may do well to just remove it and recast what remains. And "internode" only has meaning in biology. Peter O. (Talk) 20:16, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)

cite sources

I have no idea what happened on that page, but I did not intend to delete or even archive anything. Indeed, I didn't think I did any deleting at all. I do not know why what I originally added was lost along with the rest of the page. Slrubenstein 01:04, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Jews in USA article

You might be interested in the Jews in USA article, and the VfD on it. Jayjg | (Talk)

Criticism

Aloha. I just saw your comments (dated Jan 11, 2005) in OneGuy's talk archive. I would be very interested in understanding how posting a boilerplate 3RR warning, and engaging in polite, subsequent follow-up discussion is tantamount to "ganging up" on a user. I'm open to criticism, so any input you might have is welcome. --Viriditas | Talk 06:00, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments. In that case, would you mind mediating this conflict? I'm trying to let him have the last word, but he keeps attacking me instead, in which case, I feel the need to respond.--Viriditas | Talk 06:27, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Sorry. The conflict on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard and Talk:Children and minors in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. I'm willing to work with OneGuy in good faith. --Viriditas | Talk 06:33, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Mondragon

Thanks for the comment - I deleted the reference as it was more to do with the Mondragón Cooperative Corporation than the town itself. As I have created a new page for the MCC, I moved the reference there - it's still on Wikipedia. Mtiedemann 21:44, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)

I think you are right - I treated the reference as 'further reading' rather than the reference it clearly stated itself to be. Re Anbotoko Mari, I have taken your advice and created Category:Basque myths and legends and removed the see also line. I am not qualified to do an article on Basque myths and legends so this was a useful compromise - thanks. Mtiedemann 02:22, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

relativism

I have just finished a massive overhaul of the Cultural relativism article -- would you be willing to look at and comment on it? Thanks, Slrubenstein 20:34, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the good comments, Slrubenstein 21:52, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)

West Papua

I did manage to get around to a serious edit of the page last night, it's there between the reverts; and I thought I'd ask your opinion on this tid bit of history:

1962 was of course not the first time a section of the US govt. had tried to effectively sell West Papua to Indonesia for its 'good will'. In 1957 the a US Ambassador to Indonesia proposed getting Holland to transfer WP to Indo. over a five year period, and to keep the Australians quiet the Indonesians be gotten to sign as members to the ANZUS treaty.

• The response was quick, he was transferred to Prague.
  • I suspect Prague was *not* the top place a US diplomat wanted to be in the mid fifties. ;-)

Question: do you think readers would appreciate? --Daeron 04:57, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

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Hi, I was a bit taken back by tone of response; but not upset. :) The above was a tid-bit; not a write-up. - - actually I'm more concerned that you thought it sounded like an article, but in any event.

Concerning Prague, as it happens my family emigrated from Bohemia to New Zealand in 1862, I'm told my great grandfather was quite happy about Czechoslovakia's formation, and I have no doubts that he's have been over the moon about the Czech Republic. I happen to think the town of Golden-Crown & the surrounding country side is stunningly beautiful, but I may be biased on this :) -- none the less, I suspect the author is correct about it not being a desired post for a US diplomat in the 1950's.

"The West New Guinea Debacle" by CL Penders published 2002; page 294 to 295 Ambassador John Allison; and yes you are correct, what the author actually says is:

"Certainly the State Department had far less confidence in Sukarno's promises and absolutely rejected Allison's plan, transferring him soon after to Prague."

• However, I think its funny, its like something out of a parody; worth a slight exaggeration for a giggle. Sorry you didn't realise I was telling a funny story, I'll not share in future if desired. My apology.--Daeron 07:21, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

No, you're fine, and very much appreciated -- which is also why I've asked for a Advisor from the AMA group. I don't want you to have to keep suffering -- I don't like it, I don't imagine any regular person would.

Also I've realised you may have thought the above was a quote from the edit I'd mentioned, of course I didn't mean to infer that. The edit I did was this, nothing special just re-did the Intro to see what it could look like iif Jonh.K. agreed to allowing separate pages.--Daeron 07:39, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

cmt re categories

Hi Joe, I have only been editing sporadically the past six months and I returned this evening to Shining Path, an article I haven't looked at for a long time. Much to my dismay, I noticed that it is categorized under Leftist terrorist organizations, which itself falls under Terrorist organizations. I also see that the category Terrorists is still around. I also noticed your comments on the various Talk pages. Have these categories really been listed for deletion and kept? :((( -- Viajero 19:24, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Yup. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:05, Jan 27, 2005 (UTC)

Hey whatever you freaking name is hey you help me the hell out with the cyberchase network aiuhg?

Four Freedoms

I just spotted your comment on the talk page for this article regarding the Orwell connection. Please go easy on User:MPLX -- I lost my cool elsewhere and he's only responding in the same tone. More discussion of the issue is at Talk:Nineteen Eighty-Four, if you'd like to weigh in. I'm pretty sure we'll get it all sorted out, though. -Ben 04:40, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Any Limits on User Page extension

Hey, what's up. I'm planning on transferring some of what I wrote on Talk:List of Dacian words to my User Page, but I was wondering whether Wikipedia has some sort of rule on how long a User Page can be. The ones I especially want to transfer are the ones that discuss words not on the List. This of course would make for a massive User Page. Decius 11:22, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks Joe. Decius 03:40, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Talk: Radical Middle

Hi Jmabel, Apologies, I'm trying to figure out the right etiquette here. Just to be clear, I believe I deleted your exchange with 'me'. I was trying to find the best way to respond to your valid point that the link I asked about was inappropriate (I thought it an interesting sign of how the movement's evolving, but in retrospect it was bad judgement on my part). But, just removing the link seemed like it would make the rest of the discussion confusing, so I thought it cleaner to just remove the whole exchange (as it was then moot). I realize I should have at least posted a note here explaining my actions.

Again, I apologize for messing things up, and would welcome your advice on the best way to remedy things. Thanks.Drernie 17:09, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Farzad

Done now. - Mustafaa 21:48, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Wikicite project page

Wikipedia:WikiProject_Wikicite To add a card catalog and citation features. Stirling Newberry 23:50, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for reading, I hope we can get the various credibility projects to tie together. Stirling Newberry 02:06, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Stan Lee

From what I gather, you do some research on Romanian Jews (among other ethnicities). A little known fact (though you might know) is that Stan Lee's parents were Romanian jews (Stan Lee is the co-creator of Spider-Man, the Hulk, etc.). Stan Lee was born Stanley Lieber in Manhattan, but he can be considered a Romanian-American-Jew. I wonder if Stan Lee speaks any Romanian, because his parents almost certainly did. Decius 15:19, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)

DYK

Short but effective, though it might be interesting to see a short discussion of the architectural style. 68.81.231.127 13:16, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Proposed changes for Category:Palestine

Hi Joe: Your input would no doubt help provide further perspective at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion#January 15 [5] concerning many naming conventions relating to the "Palestine" issue. Please give this matter your attention soon. Thank you. IZAK 08:07, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

special population group

it is usually not necessary to use the term special population group. it can have the meaning something would not be desireable.

i have edited the discussion of political correctness. Akidd_dublin 200502071728

Alphabetical order, re-visited

See Wikipedia talk:Category#Alphabetical order, re-visited.

Changed Title

I changed the title of "Culture defines politics" to Cultural imprint on politics. I think this is a winner of a title for the subject material. I hope you agree. Let me know what you think? Thanks for your consideration and time. WHEELER 19:09, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Please talk to 172

172 has now changed the title back. I changed the title to suit you and others. You are right in change of the title. That is the only reason I changed the title. Please talk to 172 and have the title changed back please. WHEELER 19:45, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)