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Rewording

In addition to simple copy-editing, I re-worded the bit about Kristofferson and Anka; various sources credit Kristofferson more with setting Goodman up with the record company and tell the story differently. In any event it's clear Kristofferson was an advocate of Goodman's and brought Anka and Gooman together. I also abbreviated the story about the first meeting with Guthrie, the details of which are also quite variable depending on who is doing the telling. Jgm 16:40, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Cubs

Is it really necessary to include the part about the Chicago Cubs playoff game here? Is there something they did to recognize him? If so, shouldn't it be included? If not it should be taken off. It seems irrelevant. CincinnatiWiki 03:54, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mind leaving the fact that he died just before the playoff game, but the "ironic" mention has got to go. The error described in the song ("Have Keith Moreland drop a routine fly") makes no mention of a playoff game and bears no similarity to Durham's error. No coincidence or irony. I am removing it. BlongerBros 04:40, 17 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Margueritaville

It's my understanding that Steve Goodman wrote "Margueritaville." If so, it clearly should be noted here - and on Jimmy Buffet's page. I have done a bit of searching but can't find specific Copyright attribution - just a whole lot of presumption that Buffet wrote it. Apologies for perhaps posting this Q inappropriately, but I couldn't see where else to. MongoPawn (talk) 21:18, 29 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Buffett composed "Margaritaville," according to BMI's searchable index of songs under its aegis: http://repertoire.bmi.com/title.asp?blnWriter=True&blnPublisher=True&blnArtist=True&page=1&keyid=958953&ShowNbr=0&ShowSeqNbr=0&querytype=WorkID Monkeyzpop (talk) 02:05, 30 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The meeting of Guthrie and Steve Goodman City of New Orleans

The description of the meeting of Arlo Guthrie and Steve Goodman is a variation on Arlo Guthrie's version as told at his concerts. It is my understanding that Arlo has admitted that this is a very embellished version of what actually happened. The exhaustive biography of Steve Goodman by Clay Eals which is referenced elsewhere in the article gives a version (corroborated by both Guthrie and the Club owner) that this was a pre arranged meeting made by the club owner. Both Arlo and Steve knew about the meeting beforehand and Arlo made the club owner (not Steve) buy him a beer so that he could drink while listening to the song.

The line "Guthrie liked enough that he asked to record it." is technically correct but somewhat misleading in context. According to Eal's biography Arlo forgot about the song and it wasn't until quite some time later that he noticed it sitting on his piano and still some time after that before deciding to record it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weston18 (talk • contribs) 21:36, 17 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, the line, "Barry McGuire, however, has told concert-goers recently that he was present at that meeting and it occurred at the Troubadour in Los Angeles, according to San Diego Arlophile Rodger Hartnett.", is ambiguous and seems contradictory. At first glance, it makes no sense. Who's reporting on the location, McGuire or Hartnett? Or is Hartnett reporting on McGuire's concert statements? If it's the latter, then that phrase belongs at the beginning of the sentence. That said, the section above seems to render this sentence irrelevant, so I suggest this paragraph be completely rewritten. Ge0nk (talk) 03:52, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Both Arlo and Steve say it occurred in Chicago. [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFh5bahIEvs Interview with Steve Goodman ] [ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DM6ppYwXTQ Arlo at Dunegrass 2008 ] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.200.41.67 (talk) 06:57, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Musical Career

There is an odd omission in the following paragraph: 'During the fall of 1979, Goodman was hired to write and perform a series of topical songs for National Public Radio. Although Goodman and Jethro Burns recorded eleven songs for the series, only five of them, "The Ballad of Flight 191" about a plane crash, "Daley's Gone", "Unemployed", "The Twentieth Century is Almost Over", and "The Election Year Rag", were used on the air before the series was cancelled.'

The first sentence states that Goodman was hired to write songs by NPR. Fine. The following sentence notes that the songs were written for 'the series', the use of the definite article implying that the series title has already been mentioned. National Public Radio would be the logical preceding subject referent for 'the series' except for the fact that NPR is not, of course, a series. 'The series' is mentioned again at the end of the second sentence but with no clarification of what series it refers to. The second sentence is also an unwieldy mess, so it should be cleaned up anyway. I don't have access to the citation text or I would do it. RobotBoy66 (talk) 05:45, 22 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A little late with a response, but you are missing the obvious here. He "was hired to write and perform a series of topical songs". This "series of topical songs" is the series that the later sentence refers to. It is a specific series, but not a named one. --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:37, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

list of songs

Where's the list of most familiar songs? Compilation album song list? Where? Rtdrury (talk) 14:47, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Missing association

Transferring the following in-article comment from User:76.90.50.158:

John Prine was a long time buddy of Steve Goodman. He should be mentioned in this bio

DMacks (talk) 03:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

According to John Prine, they were more than just buddies (not really "encyclopediac" information), but instead had some professional collaboration in various ways. Feel free to add something. DMacks (talk) 03:10, 6 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Nancy Pruter or Tenney

The pages says Goodman's wife is Nancy Pruter:

Nancy Pruter (sister of R&B writer Robert Pruter)

The page of Robert Pruter says he is the brother in law of Goodman:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Pruter

But in this copy of an article of the Chicago Sun Times written by DAVE HOEKSTRA from december 4 2005 his wife is called Nancy Tenney:

http://buffettnews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43192

In this other blog post also from DAVE HOEKSTRA Goodman's daughter Rosanna is quoted calling her mother Nancy Tenney:

https://www.davehoekstra.com/2021/05/18/steve-goodman-things-that-touch-the-soul/

In this article from 2016, she is "his widow, Nancy Goodman Tenney."

https://www.si.com/mlb/2016/09/29/steve-goodman-cubs-song-daughters

Nancy Tenney Goodman is also credited for appearing in the 2009 movie We believe https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3504952/ and her IMDB says that she was married to Steve Goodman, but also that she is the sister of Robert Pruter.

Anyone else think there is a mistake here ? Vitaminesuko (talk) 21:44, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm... I'm not seeing the problem. The lady was born Nancy Pruter. She married Steve Goodman, becoming Nancy Goodman. The name Nancy Goodman Tenney indicates that she married somebody named Tenney after Steve died. User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 15:41, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]