Talk:Stokenchurch

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Loud techno music can often be heard late at night due to the presence of a free raving community

Unless a good reference can be provided for this information I'll not allow it in the article. If a good reference can be provided please reword the sentence to make it more encyclopedic. Thank you. -- Graham  :) 21:03, 18 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Red Kites

The last paragraph is very concentrated on the Red Kites. Although Stokenchurch is probably the best place I know to watch them, perhaps a link to the Red Kite article would be more appropriate? -- IanUK 21:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Stokenchurch Original Anglo-Saxon name

Being an ex-resident, and family going back generations, of Stokenchurch: I was always taught that the original anglo-saxon name meant "church within a stockade". I believe it was mentioned in this context in the guide to the Parish Church of St Peter& St Paul.

There was also reference in the same publication of a battle taking place on the escarpment adjoining Beacon Hill and "The Canyon".

Can anyone throw further light on these two queries??

Regards

David J

David J Johnson (talk) 15:58, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

I have added a reference for the name origin that is listed in the article; I shall have a look at the other info you have provided and see if I can find anything related to that over the weekend. -- role^player 17:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much, I too will see I can find my original sources. David J Johnson (talk) 16:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I have looked into it, and updated the article accordingly. The battle you mentioned was two skirmishes in the English Civil War, these broke out all across this part of England at this time, and it would appear that neither skirmish was serious enough to have made it into the history books as a "Battle of Stokenchurch". I have also updated the various arguements as to the village name. Unfortunately none of them point to the "Stoke" part of Stokenchurch meaning "stockade". I have looked in my English etymology for the origin of the word stockade and it is actually a compound of Old English and Old French elements, Old English stocc meaning "log" and Old French ade meaning "breast". The etymology suggests that "stockade" was coined in imitation of the French word "estocade", meaning to thrust in fencing. So now you know! -- role^player 17:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the info regarding village name. Well now I know!! Regarding the "battle", I think the reference I remember(?) was a lot earlier than the Civil War. Anyway I'll try to find the publication. Up in the loft again!! Best regards & thanks, David J Johnson (talk) 18:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Just so that you know, I did make a point of looking for other mentions of a battle talking place in Stokenchurch in the book I consulted today; unfortunately only the Civil War was mentioned. -- role^player 19:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Roleplayer, Well I've managed to locate "A Brief History of Stokenchurch and the Parish Church of SS. Peter & Paul". By the look of the publication, I would say my copy dates from late 70's early 80's. Anyway, the reference to "church built within a stockade or fence of timber" is on page 9 and is ascribed to Thomas Delafield, curate of the Parish and Tippings Schoolmaster in 1725. However, I am happy with your revision , as there is bound to be differences in scholars views of Old English. Regarding the battle: the reference is, again, on page 9 and reads thus:- "If tradition is right, later invaders, the Danes, were more thorough, and a battle is said to have taken place on Beacon Hill in the year 914 A.D, between these invaders and the inhabitants. There is a local saying that "Juniper only grows where blood has been spilled" and it certainly is covered in Juniper". There is no reference to source(s), although the date is clear at 914AD. I well rememeber my darling Grandfather saying that he was taught about the battle at school. From personal observation there is much juniper on the hill. But there is no mention in "Stokenchurch in Perspective" (several pics of my family though), so do you think that a mention should be made in the History section - even if this appears to be the only(?) reference?? Perhaps the Guide is still available at the Church. Anyway back to the loft. Look forward to hearing from you. Best regards, David David J Johnson (talk) 12:08, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, if I recall correctly Delafield is mentioned in the Starey and Viccars book though I still think the stockade version is less likely due to the word originating in the French language. Good find re the battle though, I would go ahead and include that in the article. Do you have a full reference for the publication you've found? -- role^player 11:52, 25 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Roleplayer, Thanks for yours. Unfortunately there is no references in the guide I mention. I think despite its title it is really the Parish Church guide. Anyway, I will include a reference in the Stokenchurch page. Best regards, David David J Johnson (talk) 11:48, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

UK Parliament

Just noticed in the information box that it states that the "UK Parliament" constituency is "Wycombe".

Is this correct. I lived in the village until the 1990's and the UK Parliamentary constituiency was "Aylesbury", having transferred from "Wycombe" in the late 60's/earlt 70's.

Can anyone help??

Regards,

David J Johnson (talk) 22:49, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi David,

For a period up to and including 2005 it was in Wycombe however, a boundary change took place ahead of the 2010 election and it is now back in Aylesbury (UK Parliament constituency) along with several other parishes. Sorted. Tmol42 (talk) 23:10, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tmo142,

Thanks so much for your help.

I'm a wee bit out of touch with my home village - down here in Dorset.

Seasons greetings,

David J Johnson (talk) 11:42, 23 December 2010 (UTC)