Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Middle Eastern Studies
This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep the rewrite. Sjakkalle 08:00, 28 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Another contribution from the author of the attack page Michelle Klawans: "What is 'Middle Eastern Studies': Simply put, the study of the Culture, People, Economy, and Geography of the Middle East" Well, that was obvious from the title. The article goes on to explain what the Middle East is, which is already discussed in other places. Subject is articlable, but this article contains no useful information, and starting from scratch is probably a better option. Uppland 06:24, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge what little useable information there is to Middle East. Fork. Megan1967 08:01, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Expand- many universities do degrees in it, it isn't the topics fault that the article was written by a moron Cynical 13:14, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, rewrite, expand, per Cynical's wise counsel. -- BD2412 talk 14:10, 2005 May 20 (UTC)
- Keep and rewrite. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 15:37, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. What's the point of saying "keep and rewrite"? All that means is someone will slap a {{cleanup}} tag on it and it will stay in its crappy condition indefinitely. Might as well delete it and when someone's ready to rewrite it, they can start from a redlink. I'll change my vote if someone turns it into a decent stub before its VfD expires. —Wahoofive (talk) 16:24, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]- Keep as rewritten. Would that this happened every time someone voted to "keep and rewrite". —Wahoofive (talk) 15:48, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Not sure. The only link to this page is from a university program on Islamic studies. But there is a separate Islamic studies page. So is "Middle Eastern Studies" a valid university program somewhere? If so, then I vote to keep. — RJH 16:33, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- See the programs at U.C. Berkely, theUniversity of Chicago, and the University of Manchester for starters (and also the British Journal of Middle Eastern Studies). -- BD2412 talk 18:07, 2005 May 20 (UTC)
- Keep and Cleanup. Middle Eastern Studies is a valid university program in plenty of places. A Google search [1] gets 643,000 results with the first page showing the University of Texas, Harvard, Berkeley and the University of Chicago having Centers for Middle Eastern Programs. After 9/11 there was a push to expand funding for these courses.
- Keep and Expand - this is a legitimate academic subject--Sophitus 17:06, May 20, 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: It is bloody obvious that this is a valid subject; I said so in my nomination. It exists under various names at many universities. But if the article is kept just because a bunch of people say "keep and rewrite" without actually doing anything about it, I will nominate it for deletion again. Uppland 17:43, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Uppland has a valid point. To this end, I have added some information about contentious issues in the area raised by people such as Edward Said and Daniel Pipes. According to the history, BD2412 had already added to the article. In my view, we now have a usable article on the topic with plenty of room for further improvement. Capitalistroadster 06:16, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Good work. Keep after Capitalistroadster's rewrite. Uppland 07:58, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Uppland has a valid point. To this end, I have added some information about contentious issues in the area raised by people such as Edward Said and Daniel Pipes. According to the history, BD2412 had already added to the article. In my view, we now have a usable article on the topic with plenty of room for further improvement. Capitalistroadster 06:16, 21 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Speedy Keep: This is a very important subject. Stancel 21:25, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and expand. --Laura Scudder | Talk 21:29, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep GabrielF 04:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and expand. Jayjg (talk) 21:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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