Talk:Transitway (Ottawa)

map

Looks like things are coming together; I know I'm good with it so far.

Could anyone stopping by check the routes and stations, and particularly my italic routing notes? As a non-Ottowan, I'm going from bare memory and map reference...

Radagast 14:09, Sep 24, 2004 (UTC)

The map should be a thumb image, it's really annoying how big it is. Look at Washington Metro they have it thumbed there! Earl Andrew 03:27, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Ah, but compare Toronto Subway and RT... it really can go either way... Radagast

I've moved up the map and made it a thumbnail like in Washington Metro. I think it turned out well; less disruptive to the flow of the article but still sufficiently readable without enlargement. -Joshuapaquin 01:40, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

I agree - the map was wider than most browser windows. David Arthur 14:37, Mar 27, 2005 (UTC)

All external links for each specific station on the station's article need to be fixed. Seems like OC had a website architecture change and it borked all the links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.139.73.105 (talk • contribs) 19:37 15 April 2006 (UTC)

-I've just fixed all O-Train and Transitway Links. I've linked it to the PDF version of the station page, because it has information on routes serving which stop(s). It may be slower (especially Carleton, Confederation and Carling Station Pages) but is more detailled. The only glitch is Terry Fox which doesn't show the map on the pdf version, so i've added a link for the image, so there's 2 links there. There's also 2 links for Eagleson station (West and East). East as the pdf version while West is a .gif. Airport, Bay, Kent, Bank, Metcalfe and Stittsville have no links since they are just bus stops. I've also added a walking area map page for each station so to see which are the main attractions or roads that are located near the station. It is extremely detailled too.

As you may notice, I've separated the first section into sub-sections so that it can be more readible. Meanwhile in the sections showing the list of stations I've put also routes 94 and 99 which will become part of a 90-series bus rapid transit series. Gradually when theses routes will be proposed and put into service, we will modify the info as required. I've also put other key regular (not local -there's too many)routes that serves important segments of the Transitway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.56.237.202 (talk • contribs) 14:45 4 June 2006 (UTC)

-Just added Du Maurier Station page as for the new West Transitway expansion that is slated for this year, although I haven't put a box for Routes 96 and 99 yet so to avoid confusion on the Lincoln Fields, Queensway and Bayshore Station Pages and details are scarce for now since the project haven't started construction yet. --JForget 23:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Gatineau

the government of Gatineau is opposed to extending the O-Train into their territory

This seems to beg the question - does anyone know why they don't want rail service? David Arthur

Merging Ottawa Transitway and Ottawa Rapid Transit

Talk:Ottawa_Transitway Please see the discussion going on here. Eric B ( T • C • W ) 09:04, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

New Map?

Ottawa Rapid Transit Map

I've been wanting to try making one of these maps for a while and I noticed the one here is a little outdated. I gave it a try and came up with this:

Is there anyone who doesn't want me to replace the existing one with this? And any suggestions for improving it would be most welcome.... The text never seems to stay in the same place from Inkscape to Wikimedia... Paulshannon 15:37, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Cleanup?

Looking over this page, I think it needs to be re-written, or at least needs some reorganization. It gets a lot of info across, but it doesn't seem to flow or have consistency. I'll try to make an effort on this, but if anyone more familiar with the subject matter wants to take the helm, please do!Antemeridian 20:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Central Transitway

This section makes little sense: "In the downtown section of the central Transitway, the busway consists of a single bus-only lane on Albert and Slater Streets (one-way public streets in opposite east and west directions)." The article on the Central Transitway defines it "The Central Transitway is the downtown section...", so it's rather circular. Next, there is no busway downtown - there is no such thing as a busway consisting of a bus-only lane on a regular road; a busway is a bus-only road. D P J (talk) 04:10, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Transitway names and naming

'The Transitway' nominally consists of 5 Transitways (note my [non]use of capitalization): the Central Transitway, the West Transitway, the Southwest Transitway, the East Transitway and the Southeast Transitway. Note that these are all proper nouns. The start points of most of these are fairly obvious: the Southwest Transitway starts at Lincoln Fields and the East and Southeast Transitways start at Hurdman. The start of the West Transitway (and therefore the west end of the Central Transitway) has long been ambiguous. By rights, the Central Transitway ought to span from Lincoln Fields to Hurdman, but I have seen the West Transitway described as starting at LeBreton, probably because points west of there do not seem "central" and that the West Transitway would not contain any transitway at all were it to start at Lincoln Fields (hopefully the construction of a new section of transitway for the West Transitway between Pinecrest and Bayshore will help resolve the cause of some of this ambiguity). That brings up another point: a "Transitway" does not necessarily have to be a "transitway" (at least in the short term prior to full build-out) as there are plenty of parts of "the Transitway" that are not transitway at all.

So there we have it: "the Transitway" is the name of Ottawa's bus-based rapid transit network and it consists of five Transitways. Each of those Transitways can consist of a mixture of [bus] transitways, bus lanes and mixed traffic where appropriate. D P J (talk) 05:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Route 94

OC Transpo includes route 94 as part of the rapid transit network. I will be editing the map to reflect this, but I also believe it should move sections to a primary route. Are there any objections? I will come back and look later this week. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.211.54 (talk) 14:54, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Somebody needs to create a new page for Nepean Woods Station, coming into service on 21 April 2013 for routes 94 and 176. I would do it, but would prefer if somebody with a bit more experience did so instead. BigBenzino (talk) 01:28, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

Article name

As this article is predominantly about the Transitway, and because there is already a decent article on the O-Train, would it not make more sense to have the article called Transitway (Ottawa)? That there doesn't appear to be an entity or system specifically called "Ottawa Rapid Transit" (proper noun), and that "Transitway" is the most coomonly used name for it, would support this, I think. --RFBailey (talk) 23:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

It would be good to get some consensus on this. I started this title (way back when) as a central point to discuss both Transitway and O-Train aspects; then the Transitway article somehow got merged in, but the O-Train didn't. As this one still discusses the O-Train, I'm not sure what the correct title should be. Radagast (talk) 22:04, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd agree that this be renamed ‘Transitway’. There isn’t really any strong grouping of all ‘rapid transit’ in Ottawa, let alone a single name covering it all. There also isn’t too much overlap between the two, so the common aspects should be adequately covered by the main OC Transpo article, with this page and Ottawa O-Train covering the two systems in depth. (While we’re at it, I also think the latter article should be moved back to O-Train. It’s the proper name of the system, and it isn’t a disambiguation page or anything.) David Arthur (talk) 23:51, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Capitalization

Why is this article called "Ottawa Rapid Transit" and not "Ottawa rapid transit"? It seems to me that there is no official use of ORT to describe the network, and that ORT is just a useful way of gathering together the various components for the purposes of this article. I propose to move the article to reflect Wikpedia capitalization of article names. Ground Zero | t 21:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

It should really be called "Ottawa Transitway" (capitalized) as mentioned above, because there is already a stand alone article for the O-Train, and all that info should be removed from here. Secondarywaltz (talk) 22:15, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

History

Today I picked up a copy of the new OC Transpo map, where at the bottom of the front page it proudly proclaims "TRANSITWAY 25 Anniversary 1983–2008". This led me to think: there's no "History" section of the article, or even any information about which bits opened when. Questions like "Which bit opened first?" or "When did Billings Bridge open?" are reasonable ones that surely this article ought to answer. Presumably there are some sources somewhere that could be used? Thanks, --RFBailey (talk) 23:21, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

A source has now presented itself here. I'll get on with writing something soon, as well as adding opening dates to the Transitway station articles. --RFBailey (talk) 17:24, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

I am a reader, not a writer, or this article. Speaking for myself, I am curious as to the history of a system I use quite frequently. In particular, where did the Transitway rights-of-way originate, especially South Keys to downtown. Was this a rail right-of-way? (Seems too many grades and turns for that.) Anyway, good luck and keep up the good work. Andrew —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.62.158.205 (talk) 12:38, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

These articles to me are always bogged down with intricate details that are only really appealing to engineers and train spotters. So I agree on adding a history section but I don't think it should be recent history of the past 20 years. Early Transitway history might be interesting but I'm talking about streetcar history. A lot of current transitway stations were once streetcar stations. The original Westboro station was located not too far from the current one. This article Ottawa subway history is quite interesting. I'm sure some facts here can be corroborated with other sources. Ottawa has a long history of streetcar history. Perhaps that should be considered for this article or a separate article. TurtleMelody (talk) 17:22, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

This article is primarily about the contemporary rapid transit system, i.e. the Transitway and O-Train, whose history is recent. The earlier Ottawa streetcar system certainly deserves an article, but it should be separate from this one. --RFBailey (talk) 06:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

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Station naming convention

See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Canadian stations) for details. Secondarywaltz (talk) 17:36, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Airport station

That's not a station, or at least, OC Transpo doesn't think so. It should be deleted, and relevant content there (if any) should be added to the Ottawa Airport article.184.145.42.19 (talk) 00:09, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Rapid Transit/Transitway article merger.

With full benefit of hindsight, I'm gonna say this was a terrible idea. 70.48.113.232 (talk) 12:06, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Discussion in progress

There is a discussion in progress at Talk:OC Transpo about the fate of Transitway station articles. Please join the discussion on that page. BLAIXX 23:17, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Merger proposal

I propose to merge OC Transpo Route 61, OC Transpo Route 95, and OC Transpo Route 97 into Transitway (Ottawa).

These articles consist mostly of unsourced and overly-detailed info such as trip signs and lists of sources. This information shouldn't be included on Wikipedia per WP:NOTCHANGELOG and WP:MISC. Relevant info such as route frequencies can easily be included in this article.

Similarly, the history sections are partially relevant, but still contain a copious amount of unsourced info resembling a change-log of every minor change to its routing or frequency or stations and that of related bus routes. That history which can be sourced should be included in the history section of this article, to be an account of OC Transpo's Transitway and rapid services that integrates the various routes that compose the service and their changes over time. UmpireRay (talk) 19:55, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

• Merge. Those articles are full of WP:OR which needs to be addressed one way or another. I agree that the useful information about those routes would be more appropriate as part of another article; either Transitway as proposed above, or a new Transitway bus routes article if there is too much content. BLAIXX 23:11, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
• Merge, as mentioned above. I created Transitway (Ottawa) way back when, with the express intention of it covering everything to do with the primary routes. That they got their own articles later is highly regrettable. Radagast (talk) 15:57, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Inefficiency

This article is missing key points of the buses not running during the night, the huge problem of the suburban areas not connected directly to downtown, the high operating costs, the usual lateness, and the lack of frequent buses.

If someone would read this article today, they would think that Ottawa system is a world class transport and that the population uses it. Instead, including any of the numerous news coverage articles about the discontent from the general public would make it more accurate. 2607:FEA8:E29D:5700:B091:4465:D7ED:153E (talk) 11:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Redo of "rapid connections" in transitway tables + minor rant about OC Transpo and consistency

Rapid connections will be removed after New Ways to Bus, right now I am including any bus that either exclusively services a station-to-station passageway (such as route 110) as "rapid connections" as I am defining rapid as station-to-station transit. Even OC's own "rapid" designation is a bit unclear/inconsistent. For example route 57 shouldn't be a rapid route as buses have local service between stations south of Lincoln Fields. OC is extremely inconsistent sometimes when it comes to route designations, route 30 should be considered rapid as it offers station to station service west of Jeanne d'Arc, route 16 should be considered at the very least frequent because it offers frequent-ish service between Tunney's Pasture and Parliament and offering service to Rideau/Mackenzie King, uOttawa, and Lees, route 88 should be considered rapid because route 57 and 99 are considered rapid and both have sub-30 min service down transitways during peak hours and make local stops, future route 110 should be considered frequent as route 99 is rapid, has 30 min service in off-peak and it offers station to station service, route 55 should be considered frequent as it's one of the few local routes with sub 30 min frequencies and it travels down a major road, route 64 should be considered rapid because it's basically a mirror of route 64 south of innovation, route 74 should be considered frequent as service north of Fallowfield ends early on Sunday, route 45 is also considered rapid instead of frequent or local (it is technically a local route with elevated frequencies because it services the general hospital), and these are just the ones I can think of from the top of my head. Local to local limited routes are also inconsistent. MicherWiki (talk) 20:53, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a travel guide. We should not be coming up with our own classification for routes if OC Transpo has its own. BLAIXX 21:45, 4 October 2024 (UTC)