Talk:Equatoria

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205.150.76.247 01:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)How could a province of Egypt at any period lie in the extreme south of Sudan? Stan, wasn't "Equatoria" more of an expansionist fantasy of the Khedive of Egypt in 1869, expanding beyond the southern borders of Anglo-Egyptian Sudan.User:Wetman[reply]

Yeah, that's an interesting part of the story that I'll be able to fill in better when I finish the book (Iain Smith's on the relief expedition). Equatoria was formally under the Khedive's rule - it was not British, and not an independent country. Stan 15:28, 11 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I have been reading "The White Nile" by Alan Moorehead, and prviously read "The Blue Nile. Both books give interesting perspectives on the events discussed in your articles on Equitoria, the Mahdist revolution and the seige of Khartoum. Both books are worthwhile reading and perhaps can be added to the bibliography of these articles. E. Goldstein ( sorry I don't know how to access the tildes on my keyboard)205.150.76.247 01:14, 30 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because Sudan itself was a province of Egypt in those days, Equatoria was just its southernmost province. Gordon was governor of Equatoria before he became governor of Sudan, when the Mahdi revolt siezed Sudan, Equatoria was cut off from Egypt, and Egypt formally abandoned the province shortly thereafter (Stanley even delivered a letter to that effect on his doomed relief expedition). Equatoria was a formal province, they had a number of stations and outposts on the Nile, and it was governed by Charles Gordon and then Emin Pasha for a good number of years. They had a couple thousand Egyptian troops at their disposal, steamboats, and even received a formal salary. However, due to the distance from Khartoum, and the difficulty of travel through the Sudd, they were largely left to their own devices beyond that, years could go by without any communications. Aapold (talk) 13:51, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The map indicating the location of Equatoria at its greatest extend as a Sudan province, originally Bahr el Ghazal was a separate province with only nominal allegiance to the Egypt (a situation that resulted from local chiefs defeating an Ottoman/Egyptian force). The region fell to the Mahdi, and was only later attached to the province of Equatoria.

I'm reading "The Lost Expedition", an account of the relief expedition now, have Moorehead's White Nile on my immediate next list. Aapold (talk) 13:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is quite literally the most poorly worded Wikipedia article I have ever encountered. I understand that English may have been anything but a native language to some of the contributors, but this article could use some editorial assistance from someone who is fluent in both English and the subject matter. Macraig (talk) 03:20, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

please clarify (and disambiguation comment)

(stopped a Dabsolver run to say:) It does look like people in the picture taken in Melbourne Australia are in fact from the Sudan, so I am leaving the image but I do not see any reason why there are a dozen or so Sudanese in one place in Australia... ie is there an emigré community there? Are they on some sort of tour? Playing a sports match? Just wondering as I do not know twelve people of my nationality in the place I live. Meanwhile, I left the link going to the disambiguation page because I believe both possibilities may be true, but I don't know one way or the other; requires either research or topic knowledge. Elinruby (talk) 04:01, 25 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]